She fights to keep politics out of the lab. A conversation about what happens when the facts become inconvenient, and who pays when science is under attack.
How to tell honest scientific uncertainty from doubt that's been engineered and sold to you, and the exact question to ask when someone says the science isn't settled.
How undermining evidence and undermining self-government turn out to be the same project, connected at the root.
Who gets hurt first when decision-makers soften, delay, or treat the science as optional, and why it's rarely the powerful.
What actually happens to a career built on standing up for science, and the rules for doing it when you have something to lose.
Every book, study, person, and tool mentioned in the conversation will be linked here once the episode airs, so you can follow any thread that caught your ear.